Post by stennick on Oct 10, 2008 18:47:52 GMT -5
Ok Trips your another guy I’ve never heard of or seen anything from before. I’m still getting adjusted to the ole comeback but hey I loved Binky’s show I bet you don’t disappoint ever. I’m pretty in tune with this time period since for a long time I was thinking of wrestling WM 23 as a one off show but alas laziness kicked in and that idea still has remnants laying around my hard drive. Anyway though lets introduce ourselves I’ll go first.
Hi Trips I’m Stennick, then you would say “Hi Stennick I know you’re a legend and it’s a great honor to have you reviewing my show” then I’ll let out a slight appeasing chuckle, pat you on the back and reply with “My dear boy, I’m no legend, I prefer to look at myself as walking God, or living wonder. Although I’m a humble man so we’ll go with legend”. I’m just giving you shit seriously though lets get on with this thing. Like I told Binky which is hard for me to call him that because that what I call my daughters pacifier so at any rate back on track I don’t know anything about your series or if you have one so I’m looking at you to fill in my blanks with this show.
You ran down tonights show which is pretty damn close to the real WM 23 if I remember right. I also love the New Breed storyline because I dig Thorn, Punk, Cor Von, and Burke so that story was awesome me for. Nice to see the New Breed go over big here with the help of my boy Punk. Very good opener.
MNM segment was just fine for what it is, a last minute hype for the womens match, some eye candy and a break in the action. Moving on.
Kane vs. Khali ok well I think you lost me at Khali but lets see what ya got going on here. I really think Kane should have went over here, its Mania its not like there is going to be too much more Khali vs. Kane, if anything Kane wins and Khali attacks after the match or something. Atleast give the fans that, two matches and two heel wins would kind of kill the crowds heat ya know?
MVP Promo
I like the promo style the summary style. That way you can’t really get the “MVP wouldn’t say that” sort of flack. Instead you just went over the points. Now your point was a bit hard to read, that thing could have been written a bit more neatly but still not too bad.
MVP vs. Benoit
Again not a bad match but now its THREE heel wins in a row, I agree with the New Breed and I agree with MVP but that’s more reason why you should have put Kane over. Kane Khali was good filler inbetween the exciting matches and could have really boosted the crowd inbetween the two heel wins. The right guy went over but stacking the top of the card with all these heel wins just sorta of makes it feel a bit on the flat side that’s all. This is Wrestlemania, feuds come here to end not to be started ya know? So it bothers me when we see a bunch of heels winning and either starting or continuing feuds. I’m a big fan of what happens at WM stays at WM but that’s just my opinion. I know you didn’t have time to build these shows up but WM is not the place to start a series. The night AFTER WM is a great place to start. You always have the new guys debuting, brand new feuds, the draft coming up shortly afterwards. Ok I’ll get more into this during my final thoughts. Again good match, good win for MVP, just don’t like the heels winning every match.
DX Promo
Ok this is where you could find yourself having some problems with this style of promo. HBK says, HBK tells, HBK then tells, then HBK tells, then HBK said, HHH then says, HHH tells, then HBK AND HHH tell and say. You get my point. I liked the summary but you have to find a way to make the promos less redundant. I liked the content but find a way a better way to merge and segway to the next speaking point ya know? Still though summary promo style hasn’t been done by anyone too successfully so you’re the best one to do it so far.
Trish Promo
Well you could see that Trish would be getting involved tonight from a mile away. I don’t mind the Trish promo but if you just had her show up I think that would have been a neat “WRESTLEMANIA” moment. Now the crowd knows she’s there, we expect to see her and we know she’ll be involved in the ending of the match. Imagine the pop if Trish just SHOWED UP unannounced it’d be a lot bigger than if we were expecting her. Just nitpicking here.
Melina vs. Ashley
A TON of interference in this match for it being the womens match and then on top of that we get a FOURTH straight heel victory. This is Wrestlemania you know that right? Good guys prevail, I’m all for a shocking heel victory but every match seems to be going the same route. I’m not asking for Ashley to beat Melina I’m just asking you to mix up the face victories (if any) with the heel ones. The Trish thing didn’t seem nearly that important since Melina just bailed. Kind of a let down you expect her to atleast make the save but Melina bails before she can even do that. Your doing some serious heel protecting at Wrestlemania.
Some random segments to break in the action although even those segments were of heels. For this being wrestlemania night of the good guys prevailing over evil I’m seeing nothing but heel after heel. The only face to get promo time is HBK, well and Trish I suppose. Their not winning the matches and their not being featured in promos just seems weird to be doing it this way.
MOTB
I really didn’t like you write up for this match. I felt like the biggest match of the night and it got less detail than Kane and Khali. I understand not writing out the match but what I would have done is describe a wild crazy brawl, heel vs. heel, face vs. face, double teams, alliances made and broken, crazy spots, then go to the ending. Describe how this guy took out this guy but took himself out too, then these two took out this guy blah blah blah you get the point. Instead I got three spots and another heel going over.
BOTB
Lashley going over is huge, obviously there was no way Trump was going to lose but still this is the first time all night a face has gone over and he went over in a big way to kudos for that. I was starting to think you were trying a new trend in wrestling where the good guys never win
HBK vs. Cena
So let me get this straight its face vs. face right, and then HHH hits Cena in the head with a crutch? Then HBK beats him. No big deal on the HBK winning I think it’s a great move, but HHH hitting Cena with the crutch and that doesn’t turn him heel and it doesn’t turn HBK heel for being ok with it? Or does HBK even know about it? You say they celebrate with the cheers, why are the fans cheering that HBK and HHH cheated to beat Cena? I’m just very confused and let down by the ending. If you wanna turn DX heel then do it, if you want HBK to beat Cena then have Cena put his hands on HHH and then when he turns around BAM sweet chin music. Then HBK wins, he’s still a face and Cena doesn’t have to turn heel but you can do the whole “he took his eyes off the prize”. He has that rivalry with HHH anyway. All I’m saying as the match was great but the ending was very sour.
Taker vs. Batsita
The right guy wins the match, Taker is and always will be a huge fan favorite so for that again kudos. You have the right guy go over, you had the right match go on last, and you ended it the right way. This was by far the one match tonight that you “nailed’ perfectly.
Overall
I touched on a lot of this before but lets just go back over it. I don’t know if you started your series here or if this was a one off. If it was a one off then why not say fuck it and let the good guys take home some more matches? If it’s the start of a series then again I would suggest not starting at Wrestlemania. I didn’t like how the first four or five matches and for that matter the first ¾ of the show was just dominated by heels. I didn’t like the screwy HBK title match finish it left me more confused than anything. I think your promo style is good, I think your match writing is fine. I just again think you need a bit more practice with the pacing of your shows. Think about it as if you were there, would you as a “fan” want to see five bad guys go over in a row? That’s like saying I’d want to the Rams to never win a game all season…..wait nevermind. Anyway if your favorite team lost five games in a row you’d be pissed and ready to give up for a while. Fans feel the same way. I’m not saying don’t let the bad guys win, I’m just saying lets mix it up a bit. With the heels dominating so much of the show, followed by the weird HBK thing I think this would go down as a “dead crowd”. Think about it when your booking add some more excitement and drama to your writing, get some better pacing for your shows. Your on the right track if you continue or don’t continue this show I suggest you stick with the style that fits you and just work on it. I don’t know how many shows you’ve done but this is a very good start and I would like to see more of your writing be it on this series or another.
P.S
Up next is Tony’s ECW 2/12 I should do that before the end of the night and I might feel ambitious and do one more after that….or I may go bang the wife and watch Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Ok yeah so given the choice between reviewing two more shows or the latter, I’m gonna go with the latter.
Hi Trips I’m Stennick, then you would say “Hi Stennick I know you’re a legend and it’s a great honor to have you reviewing my show” then I’ll let out a slight appeasing chuckle, pat you on the back and reply with “My dear boy, I’m no legend, I prefer to look at myself as walking God, or living wonder. Although I’m a humble man so we’ll go with legend”. I’m just giving you shit seriously though lets get on with this thing. Like I told Binky which is hard for me to call him that because that what I call my daughters pacifier so at any rate back on track I don’t know anything about your series or if you have one so I’m looking at you to fill in my blanks with this show.
You ran down tonights show which is pretty damn close to the real WM 23 if I remember right. I also love the New Breed storyline because I dig Thorn, Punk, Cor Von, and Burke so that story was awesome me for. Nice to see the New Breed go over big here with the help of my boy Punk. Very good opener.
MNM segment was just fine for what it is, a last minute hype for the womens match, some eye candy and a break in the action. Moving on.
Kane vs. Khali ok well I think you lost me at Khali but lets see what ya got going on here. I really think Kane should have went over here, its Mania its not like there is going to be too much more Khali vs. Kane, if anything Kane wins and Khali attacks after the match or something. Atleast give the fans that, two matches and two heel wins would kind of kill the crowds heat ya know?
MVP Promo
I like the promo style the summary style. That way you can’t really get the “MVP wouldn’t say that” sort of flack. Instead you just went over the points. Now your point was a bit hard to read, that thing could have been written a bit more neatly but still not too bad.
MVP vs. Benoit
Again not a bad match but now its THREE heel wins in a row, I agree with the New Breed and I agree with MVP but that’s more reason why you should have put Kane over. Kane Khali was good filler inbetween the exciting matches and could have really boosted the crowd inbetween the two heel wins. The right guy went over but stacking the top of the card with all these heel wins just sorta of makes it feel a bit on the flat side that’s all. This is Wrestlemania, feuds come here to end not to be started ya know? So it bothers me when we see a bunch of heels winning and either starting or continuing feuds. I’m a big fan of what happens at WM stays at WM but that’s just my opinion. I know you didn’t have time to build these shows up but WM is not the place to start a series. The night AFTER WM is a great place to start. You always have the new guys debuting, brand new feuds, the draft coming up shortly afterwards. Ok I’ll get more into this during my final thoughts. Again good match, good win for MVP, just don’t like the heels winning every match.
DX Promo
Ok this is where you could find yourself having some problems with this style of promo. HBK says, HBK tells, HBK then tells, then HBK tells, then HBK said, HHH then says, HHH tells, then HBK AND HHH tell and say. You get my point. I liked the summary but you have to find a way to make the promos less redundant. I liked the content but find a way a better way to merge and segway to the next speaking point ya know? Still though summary promo style hasn’t been done by anyone too successfully so you’re the best one to do it so far.
Trish Promo
Well you could see that Trish would be getting involved tonight from a mile away. I don’t mind the Trish promo but if you just had her show up I think that would have been a neat “WRESTLEMANIA” moment. Now the crowd knows she’s there, we expect to see her and we know she’ll be involved in the ending of the match. Imagine the pop if Trish just SHOWED UP unannounced it’d be a lot bigger than if we were expecting her. Just nitpicking here.
Melina vs. Ashley
A TON of interference in this match for it being the womens match and then on top of that we get a FOURTH straight heel victory. This is Wrestlemania you know that right? Good guys prevail, I’m all for a shocking heel victory but every match seems to be going the same route. I’m not asking for Ashley to beat Melina I’m just asking you to mix up the face victories (if any) with the heel ones. The Trish thing didn’t seem nearly that important since Melina just bailed. Kind of a let down you expect her to atleast make the save but Melina bails before she can even do that. Your doing some serious heel protecting at Wrestlemania.
Some random segments to break in the action although even those segments were of heels. For this being wrestlemania night of the good guys prevailing over evil I’m seeing nothing but heel after heel. The only face to get promo time is HBK, well and Trish I suppose. Their not winning the matches and their not being featured in promos just seems weird to be doing it this way.
MOTB
I really didn’t like you write up for this match. I felt like the biggest match of the night and it got less detail than Kane and Khali. I understand not writing out the match but what I would have done is describe a wild crazy brawl, heel vs. heel, face vs. face, double teams, alliances made and broken, crazy spots, then go to the ending. Describe how this guy took out this guy but took himself out too, then these two took out this guy blah blah blah you get the point. Instead I got three spots and another heel going over.
BOTB
Lashley going over is huge, obviously there was no way Trump was going to lose but still this is the first time all night a face has gone over and he went over in a big way to kudos for that. I was starting to think you were trying a new trend in wrestling where the good guys never win
HBK vs. Cena
So let me get this straight its face vs. face right, and then HHH hits Cena in the head with a crutch? Then HBK beats him. No big deal on the HBK winning I think it’s a great move, but HHH hitting Cena with the crutch and that doesn’t turn him heel and it doesn’t turn HBK heel for being ok with it? Or does HBK even know about it? You say they celebrate with the cheers, why are the fans cheering that HBK and HHH cheated to beat Cena? I’m just very confused and let down by the ending. If you wanna turn DX heel then do it, if you want HBK to beat Cena then have Cena put his hands on HHH and then when he turns around BAM sweet chin music. Then HBK wins, he’s still a face and Cena doesn’t have to turn heel but you can do the whole “he took his eyes off the prize”. He has that rivalry with HHH anyway. All I’m saying as the match was great but the ending was very sour.
Taker vs. Batsita
The right guy wins the match, Taker is and always will be a huge fan favorite so for that again kudos. You have the right guy go over, you had the right match go on last, and you ended it the right way. This was by far the one match tonight that you “nailed’ perfectly.
Overall
I touched on a lot of this before but lets just go back over it. I don’t know if you started your series here or if this was a one off. If it was a one off then why not say fuck it and let the good guys take home some more matches? If it’s the start of a series then again I would suggest not starting at Wrestlemania. I didn’t like how the first four or five matches and for that matter the first ¾ of the show was just dominated by heels. I didn’t like the screwy HBK title match finish it left me more confused than anything. I think your promo style is good, I think your match writing is fine. I just again think you need a bit more practice with the pacing of your shows. Think about it as if you were there, would you as a “fan” want to see five bad guys go over in a row? That’s like saying I’d want to the Rams to never win a game all season…..wait nevermind. Anyway if your favorite team lost five games in a row you’d be pissed and ready to give up for a while. Fans feel the same way. I’m not saying don’t let the bad guys win, I’m just saying lets mix it up a bit. With the heels dominating so much of the show, followed by the weird HBK thing I think this would go down as a “dead crowd”. Think about it when your booking add some more excitement and drama to your writing, get some better pacing for your shows. Your on the right track if you continue or don’t continue this show I suggest you stick with the style that fits you and just work on it. I don’t know how many shows you’ve done but this is a very good start and I would like to see more of your writing be it on this series or another.
P.S
Up next is Tony’s ECW 2/12 I should do that before the end of the night and I might feel ambitious and do one more after that….or I may go bang the wife and watch Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Ok yeah so given the choice between reviewing two more shows or the latter, I’m gonna go with the latter.
