Post by stennick on Oct 10, 2008 16:23:28 GMT -5
Den, buddy, pal, confidant, colleague what can I say that hasn’t been said about you. You’ve been called a legend, a rockstar, a mythical figure in this community we have here. Heck I even think you won the all time booking award thing Devil had a few years ago. I remember reading JD just because well it was JD and just being very impressed with it. However I haven’t read too much since so we’ll see how good you are at capturing a “new” viewer. Lets get on with it you know the drill.
Before I get into the show let me just say this is how I imagined the move to freewebs. It frees us up to do so much, more pictures, more logos, more music, more videos, more graphics. For a guy like you that was able to take a black and white screen and make people care about the words on it this is almost like cheating for you. All this does is further enhance your ability to draw people in from the first words on the screen. A guy like you doesn’t need the new stuff but its nice to see that your taking advantage of the new world we have here. So now that I’ve given you props on using your environment to enhance your shows lets see if the shows are as good as I remember
“who in the grizzly hell are you”. I laughed. Ok so that Rock promo might be the best one you’ve ever done. The only thing I don’t like about this is that somehow Austin gets wedged in there while he’s saying he wants nothing to do with the situation while Rock continues to call him out. I get it, it just feels like Austin’s sort of tacked on. Maybe if Austin had wanted the match but with Austin almost ignoring Rock’s taunting to focus on Jericho it almost makes it feel more of a three on one. However who knows how the match will go down and that Rock promo owned so I’m not exactly disappointed. I think we could have left out Austin’s promo, McMahon makes the match, Austin gets here and is even more pissed. But again that’s just my two cents.
Nice to see the DVD commercial and nice mention of Heat and the continued hype of the KOTR tournmament. I tell people all the time it’s the “little things” that can make or break a show. Although with the bad ass Rock promo the show is going to have to work hard at breaking.
Nice banter back and forth between Shane and Vince it set up tonights theme without making a big production out of it. I really enjoyed the calming down segment it was nice to take a breather after that insane promo.
Edge vs. Albert
The match wasn’t bad but I had a hard time getting into it. With Edge just wrapping up that Taker feud and now he’s messing with Albert I was fairly certain I knew the outcome of the match before it started. Again some nice stuff but I couldn’t get as into the match as I would have liked. Maybe if Edge would have went up against a strong midcarder I could see a possible upset but here I was betting Ella’s college tuition (which is a lot if you think about college tuition in 18 years) on Edge winning.
The Angle promo was on point, short, sweet, funny and on point can’t ask for anything more. The DX promo was decent, again I hate to say it but for some reason Shane is sort of taking away from the show. Not much but maybe its just his segments seem to be coming after very good segments. Opening promo, very good Angle promo etc. Again not bad, just kind of a step below the previous segment in both cases.
Eddie vs. Holly
Now this is what the Euro title is all about, highly competitive, high impact moves, big spots, and a good heel representing the title. Eddie looked like a star in the match, I’m not that into the Jarrett Holly feud but I gotta say Eddie frog splashing a beaten up Holly was good stuff. I didn’t like the DQ at first but Eddy frogsplashing him MADE me like it. Best match of the night, I know we’re only a few in but still. I kind of feel like its almost time for a Eddy IC title push but I’m sure you got plans for Latino Heat.
I liked the mid show recap of sorts but I would have liked a recap from last week more. I know what happened this week but with so long between shows for us I would have enjoyed if they would have taken time to build up either Angle’s past few shows or Christians, anything to kind of get me in the right mind for this match.
Christian vs. Angle
You know the match might have been shorter this time than for the Euro title match. Angle is the heel, he’s backed up maybe about to lose and BAM out of nowhere the better guy wins, love him or hate him he won clean and again put over the fact that he’s just a bad ass wrestler even if he does have a shitty attitude. I love it when a heel wins clean. The ending of this match was better than the Euro title match and I think that’s what really pushed me to like this match more.
DLO Promo
Ok so here I was about to give a speech about expanding the mid card characters and giving them more talking time and then you go and do that with D LO. The first ¾ of the promo were great, however at the end he sort of gets this “dog, straight up” thing that I didn’t think meshed well with the rest of the promo. He seemed a bit TOO articulate, now I’m not hating on D LO but he was always sorta a flash of the ghetto, hood, sucka in him not Booker T levels but none the less the head, the rap music on the way to the ring, etc. Anyway not bad at all it gets the point across just felt like two diffent D LO promos ya know? Then again I’m not that fleshed out with your D LO character so all I have to base this on is 2000 D LO.
The Dudleyz
Ok so this starts out Spike and Meanie, then the real Dudlezy come down, Tazz down for the save, then Saturn down for the unsave then destruction while Saturn stands guard is that about right? I think the only thing that’s confusing is I was unaware Saturn was with the Dudleyz and it kind of sucks that Tazz ran down there only to be destroyed. I was just a bit confused on this one and I’m sure if I was more up to date with the series this would have all been more clear my friend.
Jericho and Austin
See now I like this, kind of a meeting of the minds. Austin don’t like Jericho, Jericho don’t like Austin but atleast Jericho is standing up to him. That’s pretty clear cut and simple, still not sure if I really can get behind the tag team even or should I say the way it came to be but atleast your following up on it and the segment itself was very good.
McMahon vs. SToodges
So fun little stipulation here that you had Shane exploit in order to stick it to his father. It was a bummer that Vince didn’t just beat them up out of frustration and having Steph just basically say I don’t care what the stip is its not going to happen was weird but the point that Shane outsmarted his father and his goons rings very clear here so very creative finish sir.
Jeff Hardy vs. D Lo
I really liked this match, I won’t say I liked it more than the Angle match but man it was very good. Maybe the only thing better was the ending to the Angle match. I thought for sure D Lo was going over I smell Hardys vs. Henry and D Lo in the future. Very good match though sir and probably the best match of the night even if I’m partial to the IC title match.
Acolytes vs. DX
The match itself was good and the fact that the Acolytes went over even if it was because of Kane still is a huge thing. That’s a good way to build the tag division and for DX to not lose any heat. I mean wouldn’t you lose a match too if Kane was stalking you? So yes very good match and more than anything it did more for Kane (not that he needs it in your series) than anyone.
The Chase
I loved this segment I really liked it a lot. It did more to advance the characters than maybe anything on the show and as anyone can read from my last review I love character advancement and growth. I love it when you see the characters with their backs up against and wall and you see the choices they make. In this case DX is a tight knit group but its very apparent that Road Dogg and Billy are stronger than the group their in. The very fact that HHH was willing to leave and didn’t also speaks wonders about them. Their not the New World Order or any other faction where if the head guy has a chance to run he does. HHH showed balls and I think it makes people h ate them that much more that they didn’t bail on their friend. Thieves stick together in this case and I really enjoyed it.
Benoit vs. Gunn
I can’t say too much more about this segment since it really just a tie in of the last two segments. I guess I liked Benoit beating him so quickly but I really don’t get why DX was really all that pissed. It seems like Hunter would be like “ok you got beat no big deal lets get the fuck outta here” you know type deal. So it seems like they really took this loss to heart when in reality there is a big red machine waiting to rip their hearts out so yeah I dunno.
Rock ‘N Sock
I couldn’t get into this promo nearly as much as the first one. Does Mankind really say ass all that much? I always thought he was the loveable character who tried his best to keep things on a higher brow? I’m not chastising you for this or anything it was just weird to read a Mankind promo with the word ass in it so much. The Rock never really got going like he did in his first promo, still no doubt a quality Rock promo but lets face it on a night where the Rock had his best promo ever this one was a let down. The Rock is still talkig like he has a problem with the TEAM Jericho and Austin. Shouldn’t Austin again just be an afterthought with Rock really pissed off at Jericho? I mean Austin IS a face right? Again I just don’t like this Austin/Jericho team but I’m giving it until the end of the match to see where its headed I know you got something going on somewhere.
Main Event Tag Match
OH FUCK! This match was short but fucking INTENSE. Drama out the ass man. Rock/Austin, Jericho/Foley, outside, inside, t.v monitors, title belts, lionsaults, socks, oh my. Damn dude this match SOLD Vengeance. This is what main eventers do, they sell ppv buys and this match did all of that for me. Know what else? I was wrong Austin and Jericho RULE. Even if their not quite on the same page the sick, sadistic, bad ass Austin who really doesn’t give a fuck is great. I’m so glad that Austin’s got that mean streak back. Dude this match wasn’t the best mat wrestling, or even the best wrestling but NOTHING compared to the drama in this one. Great ending, great aftermath. Just a GREAT way to build for Vengenace. This match was one big commercial for the pay per view and I loved it.
Overall
Man its tough to say anything too bad after this bad ass main event. I have to say that I love the main event stories, DX, Rock, Austin, Jericho, Kane all that is clicking very very well. At the end of the day it’s the main eventers that sell tickets and pay per views so as long as the main events stay as white hot as they are there is no way things are going to go downhill for a very long time. HOWEVER I will say this, I’m not too interested in the mid card, the tag title scene seems very stale right now, Holly/Jarrett doesn’t excite me, The Hardy’s are interesting and I am looking forward to see where this DLo/Henry vs. Hardy’s thing goes if anywhere. The Dudleyz situation is confusing so like I said. Angle is gold, Eddie is gold but I’m just not feeling the midcard even HALF as much as I am those main eventers. I don’t do show ratings since I think that’s silly but I would say if for some reason you haven’t read this show you NEED to. This is how you build to a pay per view guys, you put your biggest names on the show and you write them to do what they do best, make you interested in the bigger shows. The promos, the build up that’s how its done. Like I said the midcard needs to come around a bit for my liking but that main event you got going might be untouchable at the current moment.
P.S My next review is Binky’s WWFF Intensity expect it by the end of the night.
Before I get into the show let me just say this is how I imagined the move to freewebs. It frees us up to do so much, more pictures, more logos, more music, more videos, more graphics. For a guy like you that was able to take a black and white screen and make people care about the words on it this is almost like cheating for you. All this does is further enhance your ability to draw people in from the first words on the screen. A guy like you doesn’t need the new stuff but its nice to see that your taking advantage of the new world we have here. So now that I’ve given you props on using your environment to enhance your shows lets see if the shows are as good as I remember
“who in the grizzly hell are you”. I laughed. Ok so that Rock promo might be the best one you’ve ever done. The only thing I don’t like about this is that somehow Austin gets wedged in there while he’s saying he wants nothing to do with the situation while Rock continues to call him out. I get it, it just feels like Austin’s sort of tacked on. Maybe if Austin had wanted the match but with Austin almost ignoring Rock’s taunting to focus on Jericho it almost makes it feel more of a three on one. However who knows how the match will go down and that Rock promo owned so I’m not exactly disappointed. I think we could have left out Austin’s promo, McMahon makes the match, Austin gets here and is even more pissed. But again that’s just my two cents.
Nice to see the DVD commercial and nice mention of Heat and the continued hype of the KOTR tournmament. I tell people all the time it’s the “little things” that can make or break a show. Although with the bad ass Rock promo the show is going to have to work hard at breaking.
Nice banter back and forth between Shane and Vince it set up tonights theme without making a big production out of it. I really enjoyed the calming down segment it was nice to take a breather after that insane promo.
Edge vs. Albert
The match wasn’t bad but I had a hard time getting into it. With Edge just wrapping up that Taker feud and now he’s messing with Albert I was fairly certain I knew the outcome of the match before it started. Again some nice stuff but I couldn’t get as into the match as I would have liked. Maybe if Edge would have went up against a strong midcarder I could see a possible upset but here I was betting Ella’s college tuition (which is a lot if you think about college tuition in 18 years) on Edge winning.
The Angle promo was on point, short, sweet, funny and on point can’t ask for anything more. The DX promo was decent, again I hate to say it but for some reason Shane is sort of taking away from the show. Not much but maybe its just his segments seem to be coming after very good segments. Opening promo, very good Angle promo etc. Again not bad, just kind of a step below the previous segment in both cases.
Eddie vs. Holly
Now this is what the Euro title is all about, highly competitive, high impact moves, big spots, and a good heel representing the title. Eddie looked like a star in the match, I’m not that into the Jarrett Holly feud but I gotta say Eddie frog splashing a beaten up Holly was good stuff. I didn’t like the DQ at first but Eddy frogsplashing him MADE me like it. Best match of the night, I know we’re only a few in but still. I kind of feel like its almost time for a Eddy IC title push but I’m sure you got plans for Latino Heat.
I liked the mid show recap of sorts but I would have liked a recap from last week more. I know what happened this week but with so long between shows for us I would have enjoyed if they would have taken time to build up either Angle’s past few shows or Christians, anything to kind of get me in the right mind for this match.
Christian vs. Angle
You know the match might have been shorter this time than for the Euro title match. Angle is the heel, he’s backed up maybe about to lose and BAM out of nowhere the better guy wins, love him or hate him he won clean and again put over the fact that he’s just a bad ass wrestler even if he does have a shitty attitude. I love it when a heel wins clean. The ending of this match was better than the Euro title match and I think that’s what really pushed me to like this match more.
DLO Promo
Ok so here I was about to give a speech about expanding the mid card characters and giving them more talking time and then you go and do that with D LO. The first ¾ of the promo were great, however at the end he sort of gets this “dog, straight up” thing that I didn’t think meshed well with the rest of the promo. He seemed a bit TOO articulate, now I’m not hating on D LO but he was always sorta a flash of the ghetto, hood, sucka in him not Booker T levels but none the less the head, the rap music on the way to the ring, etc. Anyway not bad at all it gets the point across just felt like two diffent D LO promos ya know? Then again I’m not that fleshed out with your D LO character so all I have to base this on is 2000 D LO.
The Dudleyz
Ok so this starts out Spike and Meanie, then the real Dudlezy come down, Tazz down for the save, then Saturn down for the unsave then destruction while Saturn stands guard is that about right? I think the only thing that’s confusing is I was unaware Saturn was with the Dudleyz and it kind of sucks that Tazz ran down there only to be destroyed. I was just a bit confused on this one and I’m sure if I was more up to date with the series this would have all been more clear my friend.
Jericho and Austin
See now I like this, kind of a meeting of the minds. Austin don’t like Jericho, Jericho don’t like Austin but atleast Jericho is standing up to him. That’s pretty clear cut and simple, still not sure if I really can get behind the tag team even or should I say the way it came to be but atleast your following up on it and the segment itself was very good.
McMahon vs. SToodges
So fun little stipulation here that you had Shane exploit in order to stick it to his father. It was a bummer that Vince didn’t just beat them up out of frustration and having Steph just basically say I don’t care what the stip is its not going to happen was weird but the point that Shane outsmarted his father and his goons rings very clear here so very creative finish sir.
Jeff Hardy vs. D Lo
I really liked this match, I won’t say I liked it more than the Angle match but man it was very good. Maybe the only thing better was the ending to the Angle match. I thought for sure D Lo was going over I smell Hardys vs. Henry and D Lo in the future. Very good match though sir and probably the best match of the night even if I’m partial to the IC title match.
Acolytes vs. DX
The match itself was good and the fact that the Acolytes went over even if it was because of Kane still is a huge thing. That’s a good way to build the tag division and for DX to not lose any heat. I mean wouldn’t you lose a match too if Kane was stalking you? So yes very good match and more than anything it did more for Kane (not that he needs it in your series) than anyone.
The Chase
I loved this segment I really liked it a lot. It did more to advance the characters than maybe anything on the show and as anyone can read from my last review I love character advancement and growth. I love it when you see the characters with their backs up against and wall and you see the choices they make. In this case DX is a tight knit group but its very apparent that Road Dogg and Billy are stronger than the group their in. The very fact that HHH was willing to leave and didn’t also speaks wonders about them. Their not the New World Order or any other faction where if the head guy has a chance to run he does. HHH showed balls and I think it makes people h ate them that much more that they didn’t bail on their friend. Thieves stick together in this case and I really enjoyed it.
Benoit vs. Gunn
I can’t say too much more about this segment since it really just a tie in of the last two segments. I guess I liked Benoit beating him so quickly but I really don’t get why DX was really all that pissed. It seems like Hunter would be like “ok you got beat no big deal lets get the fuck outta here” you know type deal. So it seems like they really took this loss to heart when in reality there is a big red machine waiting to rip their hearts out so yeah I dunno.
Rock ‘N Sock
I couldn’t get into this promo nearly as much as the first one. Does Mankind really say ass all that much? I always thought he was the loveable character who tried his best to keep things on a higher brow? I’m not chastising you for this or anything it was just weird to read a Mankind promo with the word ass in it so much. The Rock never really got going like he did in his first promo, still no doubt a quality Rock promo but lets face it on a night where the Rock had his best promo ever this one was a let down. The Rock is still talkig like he has a problem with the TEAM Jericho and Austin. Shouldn’t Austin again just be an afterthought with Rock really pissed off at Jericho? I mean Austin IS a face right? Again I just don’t like this Austin/Jericho team but I’m giving it until the end of the match to see where its headed I know you got something going on somewhere.
Main Event Tag Match
OH FUCK! This match was short but fucking INTENSE. Drama out the ass man. Rock/Austin, Jericho/Foley, outside, inside, t.v monitors, title belts, lionsaults, socks, oh my. Damn dude this match SOLD Vengeance. This is what main eventers do, they sell ppv buys and this match did all of that for me. Know what else? I was wrong Austin and Jericho RULE. Even if their not quite on the same page the sick, sadistic, bad ass Austin who really doesn’t give a fuck is great. I’m so glad that Austin’s got that mean streak back. Dude this match wasn’t the best mat wrestling, or even the best wrestling but NOTHING compared to the drama in this one. Great ending, great aftermath. Just a GREAT way to build for Vengenace. This match was one big commercial for the pay per view and I loved it.
Overall
Man its tough to say anything too bad after this bad ass main event. I have to say that I love the main event stories, DX, Rock, Austin, Jericho, Kane all that is clicking very very well. At the end of the day it’s the main eventers that sell tickets and pay per views so as long as the main events stay as white hot as they are there is no way things are going to go downhill for a very long time. HOWEVER I will say this, I’m not too interested in the mid card, the tag title scene seems very stale right now, Holly/Jarrett doesn’t excite me, The Hardy’s are interesting and I am looking forward to see where this DLo/Henry vs. Hardy’s thing goes if anywhere. The Dudleyz situation is confusing so like I said. Angle is gold, Eddie is gold but I’m just not feeling the midcard even HALF as much as I am those main eventers. I don’t do show ratings since I think that’s silly but I would say if for some reason you haven’t read this show you NEED to. This is how you build to a pay per view guys, you put your biggest names on the show and you write them to do what they do best, make you interested in the bigger shows. The promos, the build up that’s how its done. Like I said the midcard needs to come around a bit for my liking but that main event you got going might be untouchable at the current moment.
P.S My next review is Binky’s WWFF Intensity expect it by the end of the night.
